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	<title>Comments on: The Line of Death</title>
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		<title>By: Sarah Sears Webel</title>
		<link>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23107</link>
		<author>Sarah Sears Webel</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uy!</p>
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		<title>By: HP</title>
		<link>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23104</link>
		<author>HP</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23104</guid>
		<description>as &lt;b&gt;SIMPLE&lt;/b&gt; as taxes???  &lt;b&gt;HAH!!!&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as <b>SIMPLE</b> as taxes???  <b>HAH!!!</b></p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
		<link>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23103</link>
		<author>Lance</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23103</guid>
		<description>My point is that the concept of withholding is flawed from the very beginning.  Just bill me.

HP, I'll have a few more questions about this for you sometime, I'm not sure that I understand how best to do all of this stuff.  It's funny how I made it through two decades of education and never had something as simple as taxes explained to me ... just goes to show how relevant the three R's really are in our world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point is that the concept of withholding is flawed from the very beginning.  Just bill me.</p>
<p>HP, I&#8217;ll have a few more questions about this for you sometime, I&#8217;m not sure that I understand how best to do all of this stuff.  It&#8217;s funny how I made it through two decades of education and never had something as simple as taxes explained to me &#8230; just goes to show how relevant the three R&#8217;s really are in our world.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23101</link>
		<author>Steve</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, seems that maybe you are withholding too much.  You can change that.  Just don't do too little and get caught with a big tax bill!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, seems that maybe you are withholding too much.  You can change that.  Just don&#8217;t do too little and get caught with a big tax bill!</p>
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		<title>By: HP</title>
		<link>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23099</link>
		<author>HP</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23099</guid>
		<description>change how much they withhold!  its EASY!!!!

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4.pdf

what i do is have my employer take out almost NOTHING all year long, then in september i submit a new W-4 to have them take out enough for the entire year during the last 3 months of the year.  the IRS is fat dumb and happy because they get what they require before the end of december, and i am happy because i kept all the money to myself all year and only paid in at the end.  (this requires you to submit a new W4 form in january of the next year to take the withholding back down, so you submit it twice a year).

at a minimum, if you dont want to scheme that much, change your withholding to have them take out just enough to cover 90% of what your tax liability will be, that is all they require in order for you to avoid any penalties for not withholding enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>change how much they withhold!  its EASY!!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4.pdf</a></p>
<p>what i do is have my employer take out almost NOTHING all year long, then in september i submit a new W-4 to have them take out enough for the entire year during the last 3 months of the year.  the IRS is fat dumb and happy because they get what they require before the end of december, and i am happy because i kept all the money to myself all year and only paid in at the end.  (this requires you to submit a new W4 form in january of the next year to take the withholding back down, so you submit it twice a year).</p>
<p>at a minimum, if you dont want to scheme that much, change your withholding to have them take out just enough to cover 90% of what your tax liability will be, that is all they require in order for you to avoid any penalties for not withholding enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
		<link>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23095</link>
		<author>Lance</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23095</guid>
		<description>No, I mean how the system is set up ... we give our money to the federal government all year long (it's deducted from each paycheck), whether or not we really owe them that money.  If you get a tax refund, that means the the government overcharged you all year, investing your money (and earning interest that is rightfully &lt;i&gt;yours&lt;/i&gt;).

What would you do if your mobile phone company automatically took money out of your paycheck every two weeks, guessing at how many minutes you were using, only to discover at the end of the year that they had taken out way too much ... so they send you a check, acting like they're doing you a favor.  I don't know about you, but I'd be insulted and upset.

I've gotten a tax refund every single year of the last decade ... sometimes in the thousands.  That's a lot of "borrowed" money.   :evil:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I mean how the system is set up &#8230; we give our money to the federal government all year long (it&#8217;s deducted from each paycheck), whether or not we really owe them that money.  If you get a tax refund, that means the the government overcharged you all year, investing your money (and earning interest that is rightfully <i>yours</i>).</p>
<p>What would you do if your mobile phone company automatically took money out of your paycheck every two weeks, guessing at how many minutes you were using, only to discover at the end of the year that they had taken out way too much &#8230; so they send you a check, acting like they&#8217;re doing you a favor.  I don&#8217;t know about you, but I&#8217;d be insulted and upset.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gotten a tax refund every single year of the last decade &#8230; sometimes in the thousands.  That&#8217;s a lot of &#8220;borrowed&#8221; money.   <img src='http://webel.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif' alt=':evil:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23094</link>
		<author>Rob</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23094</guid>
		<description>Do you mean the bank?  lol  That was crap!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you mean the bank?  lol  That was crap!</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
		<link>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23093</link>
		<author>Lance</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23093</guid>
		<description>Well, this is crazy.  I was planning to file for an extension then hire a professional to do my taxes this year.  Last night, however, I decided to plow through them myself, just to see what they looked like (and to see which numbers to put on the extension application).  And I'm really glad that I did.

It was indeed complicated ... lots of contributions, education credits, landlording details, etc etc etc ... but the overriding factor, which I hadn't really considered, was how little money I made in the four and a half months I worked in the states in 2007.  The result?  Without even deducting any of my rental property expenses, using all of my education credit, or taking advantage of my savers credit, I still had a total tax liability of &lt;b&gt;zero dollars&lt;/b&gt;.  That's right ... the feds are getting &lt;i&gt;nuthin&lt;/i&gt; from me this year!

 :grin: 

Well, except for the free loan they got as they held onto my cash all year.  What a messed up system ... give me my money back, you thieves!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is crazy.  I was planning to file for an extension then hire a professional to do my taxes this year.  Last night, however, I decided to plow through them myself, just to see what they looked like (and to see which numbers to put on the extension application).  And I&#8217;m really glad that I did.</p>
<p>It was indeed complicated &#8230; lots of contributions, education credits, landlording details, etc etc etc &#8230; but the overriding factor, which I hadn&#8217;t really considered, was how little money I made in the four and a half months I worked in the states in 2007.  The result?  Without even deducting any of my rental property expenses, using all of my education credit, or taking advantage of my savers credit, I still had a total tax liability of <b>zero dollars</b>.  That&#8217;s right &#8230; the feds are getting <i>nuthin</i> from me this year!</p>
<p> <img src='http://webel.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well, except for the free loan they got as they held onto my cash all year.  What a messed up system &#8230; give me my money back, you thieves!!!</p>
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		<title>By: HP</title>
		<link>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23092</link>
		<author>HP</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23092</guid>
		<description>if i had that many changes in one year, i would hire a CPA to do my taxes.  would be the best $150 you ever spend.  you'll learn so much, and then in future years you can just copy all the stuff they do for you this year.  DO IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if i had that many changes in one year, i would hire a CPA to do my taxes.  would be the best $150 you ever spend.  you&#8217;ll learn so much, and then in future years you can just copy all the stuff they do for you this year.  DO IT.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
		<link>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23085</link>
		<author>Lance</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 05:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://webel.net/archives/1340#comment-23085</guid>
		<description>Oh well ... missed it by a month.  But &lt;a href="http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-taxes15apr15,1,393152.story" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;I just found out&lt;/a&gt; that if I expect to get a refund, filing the extension is unnecessary.  We'll see what happens tomorrow after I finish gathering the paperwork and look at the big picture!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well &#8230; missed it by a month.  But <a href="http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-taxes15apr15,1,393152.story" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">I just found out</a> that if I expect to get a refund, filing the extension is unnecessary.  We&#8217;ll see what happens tomorrow after I finish gathering the paperwork and look at the big picture!</p>
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