the waitstaff LOVE you. just so you know. not only are they running you lemon slices, they are getting less of a tip for more work just because you aren’t actually ordering a drink.
Now mdog … you, of all people, are trying to guilt me into becoming a shame-driven sucker because of a messed-up system that victimizes both the consumer and the employee? Haha … I’m surprised.
I’ve had a blog post about restaurants and tipping in “draft” mode since the middle of may … looks like I’m gonna have to dust it off and publish it in the next couple of days. I’ll tell you how I really feel about restaurant service …
And HP, if you’ve ever seen Fight Club, then you know what dumpster lard is really for.
i’ve simply worked in a restaurant before [though not as waitstaff, just for the record].
whatever the politics or theory behind tipping or not tipping, paying waitstaff less than minimum wage or paying them a decent living, etc., the fact of the matter remains that these are real people at a real job paying real bills.
do i think the system could be better? um, duh. would me being cheap — excuse me, frugal — send a political message to the restaurant industry and force them to rethink their priorities and say yes, YES, we WILL overhaul the system!
no, it just makes some poor schmuck work harder for less money for a not very good reason.
I’m no Mr. Pink, I play ball (and tip well). And if I want a drink, I’ll order a drink … but I’m not about to get a two dollar glass of sugar water just because I believe it puts thirty cents in a pocket. That’s the same hare-brianed logic that brought about those “economic stimulus checks” …
And yes, I’ve worked for tips alone in restaurants before … as a balloon artist!
um, yeah, that’s almost the same. [referencing BOTH paragraphs]
my point is just, if you want lemonade, then effing ORDER it. otherwise you’re making them do extra work because you are simply cheap. if you can’t afford what you want [or just don’t want to pay for what you want], then don’t go out.
Whoops … yeah, I changed it after seeing the Reservoir Dogs video you posted. Sorry!
For the record, I’d much rather have water than water-with-sugar-packets-and-lemon-slices. But if I’m asked to pay for my water (like I was in the drive-through at McDonald’s yesterday), I’ll politely decline and go to the water fountain next door. Point is, we Webels try to be wise about spending … and we love the word free!
I am a heavy drinker (of pop, ok?) And I like a LOT of refills. When I order my drink, often I tell my server this and ask them to please keep my glass full, if very thirsty I have even mentioned that their tip will be directly proportional to the number of refills I receive, and that if this means too much running around for them that putting a pitcher of pop next to me is perfectly acceptable to me. Amazingly, I have had servers think that this means ONE refill will get a good tip. Um, NOT. Using refills as a measurement (and informing the server ahead of time of this) usually nets a good refiller (or a waiter who brings me a pitcher) around 25%. On the other hand, I once completely stiffed a waitress who didn’t refill my cup even once.
As I understand it, tipping is an American thing that isn’t practiced in most of the rest of the world.
July 17th, 2008 at 9:33 am EST
true, true
July 17th, 2008 at 10:08 am EST
wow lance - from what I have learned as my 5.5 years as a webel - that is RIGHT ON.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:26 am EST
Haha … your “original” has taught you well, Erica.
July 17th, 2008 at 11:13 am EST
If you add lard would it be a lemon Frosty?
July 17th, 2008 at 1:47 pm EST
Only if you can get the lard for free from a dumpster. That would make it some good schtuff.
July 17th, 2008 at 2:08 pm EST
schtuff… nice one HP!
July 17th, 2008 at 3:02 pm EST
oh you are NOT one of those people.
the waitstaff LOVE you. just so you know. not only are they running you lemon slices, they are getting less of a tip for more work just because you aren’t actually ordering a drink.
think about it.
July 17th, 2008 at 6:31 pm EST
Now mdog … you, of all people, are trying to guilt me into becoming a shame-driven sucker because of a messed-up system that victimizes both the consumer and the employee? Haha … I’m surprised.
I’ve had a blog post about restaurants and tipping in “draft” mode since the middle of may … looks like I’m gonna have to dust it off and publish it in the next couple of days. I’ll tell you how I really feel about restaurant service …
And HP, if you’ve ever seen Fight Club, then you know what dumpster lard is really for.
July 18th, 2008 at 8:15 am EST
i’ve simply worked in a restaurant before [though not as waitstaff, just for the record].
whatever the politics or theory behind tipping or not tipping, paying waitstaff less than minimum wage or paying them a decent living, etc., the fact of the matter remains that these are real people at a real job paying real bills.
do i think the system could be better? um, duh. would me being cheap — excuse me, frugal — send a political message to the restaurant industry and force them to rethink their priorities and say yes, YES, we WILL overhaul the system!
no, it just makes some poor schmuck work harder for less money for a not very good reason.
July 18th, 2008 at 8:31 am EST
I’m no Mr. Pink, I play ball (and tip well). And if I want a drink, I’ll order a drink … but I’m not about to get a two dollar glass of sugar water just because I believe it puts thirty cents in a pocket. That’s the same hare-brianed logic that brought about those “economic stimulus checks” …
And yes, I’ve worked for tips alone in restaurants before … as a balloon artist!
July 18th, 2008 at 8:54 am EST
um, yeah, that’s almost the same. [referencing BOTH paragraphs]
my point is just, if you want lemonade, then effing ORDER it. otherwise you’re making them do extra work because you are simply cheap. if you can’t afford what you want [or just don’t want to pay for what you want], then don’t go out.
July 18th, 2008 at 8:56 am EST
you changed your comment. and now it doesn’t make any sense with the original point of this entire post. i never said order something you don’t want.
July 18th, 2008 at 9:02 am EST
Whoops … yeah, I changed it after seeing the Reservoir Dogs video you posted. Sorry!
For the record, I’d much rather have water than water-with-sugar-packets-and-lemon-slices. But if I’m asked to pay for my water (like I was in the drive-through at McDonald’s yesterday), I’ll politely decline and go to the water fountain next door. Point is, we Webels try to be wise about spending … and we love the word free!
July 18th, 2008 at 9:10 am EST
trust me, i’m an accountant. the word free is a good one.
and, paying for water? psh. i have yet to understand the bottled water industry in the u.s….
July 18th, 2008 at 9:24 am EST
But then you’re making the owners of those water fountains do all that extra work …
July 18th, 2008 at 9:25 am EST
what, are they hand-presenting you with straws?
July 18th, 2008 at 10:38 am EST
If they are standing on straws is “cow tipping” ok?
July 18th, 2008 at 3:56 pm EST
17 comments on this? Inconceivable!!!
I am a heavy drinker (of pop, ok?) And I like a LOT of refills. When I order my drink, often I tell my server this and ask them to please keep my glass full, if very thirsty I have even mentioned that their tip will be directly proportional to the number of refills I receive, and that if this means too much running around for them that putting a pitcher of pop next to me is perfectly acceptable to me. Amazingly, I have had servers think that this means ONE refill will get a good tip. Um, NOT. Using refills as a measurement (and informing the server ahead of time of this) usually nets a good refiller (or a waiter who brings me a pitcher) around 25%. On the other hand, I once completely stiffed a waitress who didn’t refill my cup even once.
As I understand it, tipping is an American thing that isn’t practiced in most of the rest of the world.
July 20th, 2008 at 9:09 am EST
too funny…. now we’ve gone from liquified fruit to, tippling, um, i mean tipping
